Mini Sas Controller Card

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Hi, I have sầu several dozen of these drives that I can"t use, I am looking for a sas scđê mê controller for them that I can put in one of my pci-e slots without having a propietary dell or HP. server.

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Does anyone know of one? does it need flashing? I"m always running out of sata ports too so this would be a big help khổng lồ me.


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spicehead-kkjtl Jun 17, 2020 at 03:01 UTC

Hey, thanks for replying. I see those on ebay, however I am confused.

It looks lượt thích these devices will work as the kind of controller I need, but How am  meant khổng lồ connect the drives? 

I have sầu only ever worked with IDE & ATA drives, so please forgive sầu my ignorance, I just cannot stand khổng lồ see tech go to lớn waste. Especially working tech


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spicehead-kkjtl Jun 17, 20đôi mươi at 03:03 UTC

Thanks for replying.

A question regarding flashing the device into lớn IT mode, is this a difficult process?

Can I flash them with any pc? vì I need a VPS khổng lồ vì chưng it? Thanks, most of the resources I can find assume I already know things


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scheff1 Jun 17, 20trăng tròn at 08:53 UTC

Da_Schmoo wrote:

SAS is SCSI.


Which standard declares so? And why don"t my SCSI cables & SCSI connectors not fit for SAS drives nor SAS controllers?
According to Wikipedia, SAS is serial attached SCSI & as such a successor of SCSI.

spicehead-kkjtl wrote:

Hey, thanks for replying. I see those on ebay, however I am confused.

It looks like these devices will work as the kind of controller I need, but How am  meant lớn connect the drives? 

I have sầu only ever worked with IDE & ATA drives, so please forgive sầu my ignorance, I just cannot st& lớn see tech go khổng lồ waste. Especially working tech

We are forgiving your ignorance but can"t find if you complement it by lazyness. What obstacles vì chưng you have in looking up some info about SAS? What difficulties vày you have in understanding what you read in your lookups?
If you don"t have sầu the knowledge about this standard, it is not sufficient to read the sections about connectors & cables (e.g. in that Wikipedia article), but you need a broader understanding of (connection) options you get with that standard khổng lồ get the links & better underst& the section about connectors and cables. I had not to vị with this standard as stated previously but have sầu no difficulty in at least understanding that article & some of its options. Why not you?
Already SCSI could connect a SCSI enclosure with several controllers on several computers simultanously. This hasn"t changed with SAS. I guess this impossible with IDE, ATA and PATA, at least I never read nor saw such a thiết đặt. Not sure for the case of SATA. But definitely, such configurations are possible with USB too. If you don"t need such options, you may choose to lớn read what you need for your conventional thiết lập with drives attached khổng lồ one controller on one computer. That"s your choice. And you may later return in order to lớn try understanding what you"ve sầu missed và intentionally ignored in the first place in order to lớn quicker understvà what you wanted khổng lồ know và could more easily relate khổng lồ your past experience.
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Jun 17, 20đôi mươi at 10:42 UTC

spicehead-kkjtl wrote:

Thanks, most of the resources I can find assume I already know things

That can certainly be a problem with some places. Have sầu you been in IT for long? Are you more of a programmer, not inkhổng lồ hardware?


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Jun 17, 2020 at 12:35 UTC

scheff1 wrote:

Da_Schmoo wrote:

SAS is SCSI.


Which standard declares so? And why don"t my SCSI cables and SCSI connectors not fit for SAS drives nor SAS controllers?
According khổng lồ Wikipedia, SAS is serial attached SCSI and as such a successor of SCSI.

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And vì chưng you see how you contradict yourself with that statement. How is Serial Attached SCSI not SCSI? It"s the regular SCSI protocol, just with devices attached serial instead of parallel.


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Jun 17, 20đôi mươi at 12:38 UTC

spicehead-kkjtl wrote:

Thanks for replying.

A question regarding flashing the device into lớn IT mode, is this a difficult process?

Can I flash them with any pc? vày I need a server lớn vị it? Thanks, most of the resources I can find assume I already know things

If you purchase a HBA instead of a Raid adapter, you shouldn"t need to worry about IT mode. IT mode allows some Raid adapters khổng lồ act as a simple HBA instead of a Raid controller.


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Jun 17, 20đôi mươi at 12:50 UTC

spicehead-kkjtl wrote:

I may have sầu named the devices improperly, I am not too knowledgable in hệ thống hardware, I just would lượt thích khổng lồ put these to use. I can get some pictures. 

I do not know the proper name for these device

Anyways, I hate to lớn see công nghệ of any kind go khổng lồ waste. Do you know if these could be used with conventional pc hardware that are equipped with only a sata controller & sata ports?

That drive sầu is a 73GB 3.0Gbps SAS drive sầu. Don"t expect it lớn have sầu stellar performance. A modern 6.0Gbps SATA drive is likely to outperform it.

As mentioned above, you need an SAS controller. It will not work with standard SATA ports.

In addition khổng lồ the controller, you will need the cables. The cables you need depkết thúc on the controller you purchase.


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Jun 17, 20trăng tròn at 13:trăng tròn UTC

What you are going khổng lồ need:

A HBA or Raid adapter in IT mode with internal ports - there are thousands on EBay, some Dell br&, some HP, some LSI - they all are rebadged LSI adapters:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-LSI-6Gbps-SAS-HBA-LSI-9201-8i-9211-8i-P20-IT-Mode-ZFS-FreeNAS-unRAI...

A fanout cable that goes from the controller to the drive sầu & allows for power. (The connector on those drives is designed lớn connect khổng lồ a backplane in a hệ thống which provides the power, in your case you need lớn get power to lớn the drive from your system power supply as well as the SAS data cable from the controller)

Your fanout cable needs to lớn be the correct type for the HBA you bought. The one I linked above sầu uses SFF-8087 ports so you would use something like this:

https://www.amazon.com/CableCreation-SFF-8087-SFF-8482-female-Target/dp/B013G4FC2W/ref=sr_1_11?dchil...

Your system will also need a x8 or x16 PCI-Express slot available.


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spicehead-kkjtl Jun 18, 20đôi mươi at 18:38 UTC

Okay, I see. 

Thanks, my issue is,I know so little on the topic I don"t even know where to begin for researching it more broadly, I really am trying my best here. 

I am a programmer, I was tech illiterate until around hardware is not something I am very knowledgable in 


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George1421 Jun 18, 20đôi mươi at 18:52 UTC

spicehead-kkjtl wrote:

Thanks, my issue is,I know so little on the topic I don"t even know where to lớn begin for researching it more broadly, I really am trying my best here. 

I am a programmer, I was tech illiterate until around hardware is not something I am very knowledgable in 

I"m not sure I"d mess with those old drives. 73GB is not much these days. But if you want lớn build a hacker"s computer start with a Dell H700 raid controller. You can get them on ebay and some secondary markets (lượt thích amazon) for about $50USD. For the H700s make sure you don"t get an H700i (this is an integrated raid controller). You want one that has a baông chồng plate so you can install it into an expansion slot.

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-512MB-PERC-H700-Controller/dp/B005JZDUHQ/ref=sr_1_3?crid=YXT07UYPI5S6&am...

Beyond that you are going to need a sas octopus cable lượt thích this one: https://www.amazon.com/EDIMS-Internal-SFF-8087-SFF-8482-Female/dp/B07HB1RNVH/ref=sr_1_7_sspa?dchild=... The H700 supports up lớn 8 drives. You will need one of these cables for each 4 drives.

Lastly what ever computer you put the raid controller and drives into, make sure the power supply is sufficient khổng lồ drive the computer plus the new raid controller & hard drives.